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Jonathan Moregård's avatar

Thanks for the post! It touches upon things I've been experimenting with, offering new perspectives on things. I have a friend who's been shilling "the master and his emissary" for over a year now, maybe it's time to give it a go :)

In my terms, this post is about non-coercive motivational systems - a way to act in the world without bossing yourself around. The way I read your post, the "fuel sources" section is the core message, with the other paragraphs offering adjacent advice and insights.

I like the "Ambition" section, it reminds me of a favorite distinction between "liking" and "wanting" - noticing how often we think we want things, even when we don't like them. The "Wholeness", "Necromanagement" and "Trust Timing" all seems related - different ways in which coercion can slip in.

The "Desire Infrastructure" one seems important - an approach in the same domain as "habit stacking" that seems less #grindset:y. It couples well with "Why are you doing it?", as a way to keep track of the "stems", to use your tree metaphor. "Somatic Resonance" seems related, on a more intuitive/embodied level.

I like your suggestion on animism as a way to relate to things in a softer way. I've been exploring the same theme in my substack (https://honestliving.substack.com/p/things-and-beings). I hadn't connected it to non-coercion, and I'm grateful to see it pop up here. I'm fond of mechanistic metaphors, but might want to reconsider the way I word things.

I also enjoyed the "archetypal resonance" segment, it made me think of archetypes as similar to mental models, but for energetic alignment - reusable intuitive metaphors to connect core drives to the mundane.

Finally, environmental cognition and "don't go alone" are great! Moving away from coercive motivational practices requires new ways to find motivation. Having nourishing physical and social contexts are great enablers of this :)

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Jonathan Moregård's avatar

To me, non-coercion is highly connected to self-love. Pushing yourself around is not a loving act, and bumping up my self-care and wellbeing has made it easier to find more aligned ways of moving through life. I haven't written extensively on my own process, but I recently read this post that might be enjoyable: https://sashachapin.substack.com/p/how-i-attained-persistent-self-love

I also have a potential bit of feedback starting to form. It's far from fully formed, but I'll gesture at the outlines. It's about the dichotomy between Systematic and Spontaneous, which I guess you map to the hemispheres, given that your practical link points to Iain McGilchrist's work.

I believe many people are stuck in a controlling, coercive, "having mode" way of being. This is related to "being in one's head", or stuck in analysis. For those people, jumping to a more embodied/"being mode" way of being might be a good way to get unstuck, having more ways of being available to them.

After becoming unstuck and getting comfortable in what you call the "spontaneous mode", I think it's important to aim for an integration. To me, healthy intuition-supported analysis is a valuable asset, and I am using it to tinker with my life in ways that allow me to find non-coercive ways of being.

Given the segment on environemntal cognition, I am guessing you're similar. However, there is a pedagogical challenge here - finding ways to encourage exploration of what you call the spontaneous mode, without alienating the fruits of the systemic mode. It's easy to go overboard when "moving away", and cut off Systematic parts, leading to the issues you gesture at in the "Wholeness" paragraph.

More practically, I'm thinking of STEM people who burn out and drop out to live totally different "go with the flow" lives. Some of these people could benefit from integrating their STEM talents with their intuitive talents, forming a greater wholeness.

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River Kenna's avatar

Thanks for the feedback -- you know, I've talked about this a fair bit elsewhere a few times, cuz it feels obvious to me, but the question has come up enough times that it's probably worth putting together a proper articulation about.

fwiw here's a recent discussion on this: https://x.com/the_wilderless/status/1736474006755152148?s=20

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Jonathan Moregård's avatar

Thanks for the link, that makes sense given the model.

I am a bit confused regarding the claim that right hemisphere cultures want to integrate left hemisphere thinking - I'm used to thinking in terms of Wilber's pre/trans fallacy, and a stage-wise progression.

Either way, thank you for your work! :)

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